The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndreychukBattersBellemareBernardBeyakBlack (Alberta)BoisvenuBoveyBoyerBrazeauCampbellCarignanChristmasCormierCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDayDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDoyleDuffyDupuisEatonEggletonForestFrumFureyGagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHartlingHousakosJafferJoyalMacDonaldMaltaisManningMarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCoyMcInnisMcIntyreMcPhedranMégieMercerMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettPoirierPratteRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSinclairSmithStewart OlsenTannasTkachukVernerWellsWetstonWhiteWoo

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndreychukBattersBellemareBernardBeyakBlack (Alberta)BoisvenuBoveyBoyerBrazeauCampbellCarignanChristmasCormierCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDayDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDoyleDuffyDupuisEatonEggletonForestFrumFureyGagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHartlingHousakosJafferJoyalMacDonaldMaltaisManningMarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCoyMcInnisMcIntyreMcPhedranMégieMercerMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettPoirierPratteRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSinclairSmithStewart OlsenTannasTkachukVernerWellsWetstonWhiteWoo

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees

The Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C., presented the following:

Tuesday, September 25, 2018

The Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs has the honour to present its

TWENTY-SEVENTH REPORT

Your committee, to which was referred Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Department of Justice Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act, has, in obedience to the order of reference of May 10, 2018, examined the said bill and now reports the same without amendment.

Your committee has also made certain observations, which are appended to this report.

Respectfully submitted,

Observations

to the Twenty-seventh Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs (Bill C-51)

The deletion of provisions known to be unconstitutional or obsolete is an important first step in the revision and modernization of the Criminal Code, but much remains to be done to make the Code clear, coherent, and comprehensive. The committee calls upon the Government of Canada, as it has done emphatically in the past, to undertake a more thorough reform and modernization of the Criminal Code.

The Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Day, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Tabling of Reports from Interparliamentary Delegations

The Honourable Senator MacDonald tabled the following:

Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the Canadian/American Border Trade Alliance Conference, held in Ottawa, Ontario, from May 6 to 8, 2018.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2441.

Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at United States Congressional Meetings, held in Washington, D.C., United States of America, from May 15 to 17, 2018.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2442.

Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the 11th annual conference of the Southeastern United States—Canadian Provinces Alliance, held in Mobile, Alabama, United States of America, from June 3 to 5, 2018.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2443.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Second Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Second reading of Bill C-47, An Act to amend the Export and Import Permits Act and the Criminal Code (amendments permitting the accession to the Arms Trade Treaty and other amendments).

The Honourable Senator Saint-Germain moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Woo, that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Frum, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 3 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Second reading of Bill C-59, An Act respecting national security matters.

The Honourable Senator Gold moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moncion, that the bill be read the second time.

Debate.

Question Period

Pursuant to the order adopted on September 20, 2018, the Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Pursuant to the order adopted on December 10, 2015, the Honourable  Jody Wilson-Raybould, P.C., M.P., Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, entered the Senate and took part in Question Period.

MESSAGES FROM THE HOUSE OF COMMONS

A message was brought from the House of Commons with Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms, to which it desires the concurrence of the Senate.

The bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mitchell, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading two days hence.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Second Reading

The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gold, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moncion, for the second reading of Bill C-59, An Act respecting national security matters.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Mercer moved, for the Honourable Senator Jaffer, seconded by the Honourable Senator Eggleton, P.C., that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 7 to 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 12 and 13, and 15 to 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Bills – Messages from the House of Commons

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Ordered, That consideration of Order No. 2 be postponed until the next sitting of the Senate.

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Orders No. 3 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Munson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dawson, for the second reading of Bill S-244, An Act respecting Kindness Week.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Frum moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercer, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Day, seconded by the Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-246, An Act to amend the Borrowing Authority Act.

The Honourable Senator Moncion moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 4 to 9 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Second reading of Bill S-253, An Act to amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act and other Acts and Regulations (pension plans).

The Honourable Senator Eggleton, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Richards, that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Tannas moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mockler, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 to 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Private Bills – Second Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Resuming debate on the consideration of the first report (interim) of the Special Senate Committee on Senate Modernization, entitled Senate Modernization: Moving Forward, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on October 4, 2016.

The Honourable Senator Omidvar moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that further debate on the consideration of the report be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 5 to 8, 50, 66, 83 and 94 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Eggleton, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Day:

That the twenty-seventh report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, entitled The Shame is Ours: Study on the Forced Adoptions of the Babies of Unmarried Mothers in Post-war Canada, tabled with the Clerk of the Senate on July 19, 2018, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 96 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Consideration of the thirty-second report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance, entitled The Phoenix Pay Problem: Working Toward a Solution, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on July 31, 2018.

The Honourable Senator Mockler moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith:

That the thirty-second report of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance entitled The Phoenix Pay Problem: Working Toward a Solution, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on July 31, 2018, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Public Services and Procurement and Accessibility being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report, in consultation with the President of the Treasury Board and Minister of Digital Government.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Motions

Orders No. 31, 73, 89, 146 and 158 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Ringuette, seconded by the Honourable Senator McCoy:

That the Rules of the Senate be amended by:

1.replacing the period at the end of rule 12-7(16) by the following:

“; and

Human Resources

12-7. (17) the Standing Senate Committee on Human Resources, to which may be referred matters relating to human resources generally.”; and

2.updating all cross references in the Rules accordingly.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Omidvar moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gagné, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 215, 245, 286, 302, 310, 325, 328, 357, 358 and 371 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 8 and 12 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Bellemare, calling the attention of the Senate to the relevance of full employment in the 21st century in a Globalized economy.

Debate concluded.

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Orders No. 20, 24, 26 and 28 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Bellemare, calling the attention of the Senate to the challenges of literacy and essential skills for the 21st century in Canada, the provinces and the territories.

The Honourable Senator Cormier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marwah, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 39 and 40 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Order No. 41 was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.

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Orders No. 42 to 44, and 46 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mitchell:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 6:17 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Reports of the Parks Canada Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2018, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2437.

Statement on the Operations of the Veterans Insurance Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2018, pursuant to the Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. V-3, sbs. 18(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2438.

Report on the operations under the Canada Water Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2017, pursuant to the Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-11, s. 38.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2439.

Management Plan for Pingo Canadian Landmark, pursuant to the Canada National Parks Act, S.C. 2000, c. 32, sbs. 11(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2440.

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The Honourable Senator Black (Ontario) replaced the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario) (September 23, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce

The Honourable Senator Ringuette replaced the Honourable Senator Moncion (September 23, 2018).

Special Senate Committee on the Charitable Sector

The Honourable Senator Black (Ontario) replaced the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne (September 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Seidman was added to the membership (September 24, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Maltais was added to the membership (September 24, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne replaced the Honourable Senator Black (Ontario) (September 23, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Gold replaced the Honourable Senator Dalphond (September 23, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Boniface replaced the Honourable Senator Pate (September 23, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Griffin replaced the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne (September 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne replaced the Honourable Senator Griffin (September 25, 2018).